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    I have never used sand before. Has anyone here used, or using Eco-Complete Cichlid Substrate? It comes in 20lb bag of sand or 20lb bag of gravel. I'm going to go with the sand. How do I know how many bags to buy? Pound to gal ratio like gravel? Just got a 75gal with Emperor 400 and my old 280.

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    Another thing, is a 260 watt (4x 65 watt bulbs) power compact fixture too much light? Some of the people's tanks don't look like they have much lighting. Maybe I'm just used to growing plants in my tank, used too a lot of light. Oh I have a 55gal planted discus tank. It's been awhile sence I had cichlids.

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    Is that the sand that claims to have the live bacteria already in the sand/bag?

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    That is the sand that I used....3 bags is what I used for a 55 gallon....YES it is the sand that claims to have the bacteria already in it....so far I am happy with it

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    GREAT!...is it like a salt & pepper look? I saw that at the LFS & thought it was really great looking.

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    Dmiles, with 3 bags in your 55gal, about how deep is the sand, if it was level all the way across? I know it is not level, but just a guestamation? And anyone have an idea about the lighting Question?

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    Originally posted by dragonetti
    Another thing, is a 260 watt (4x 65 watt bulbs) power compact fixture too much light? Some of the people's tanks don't look like they have much lighting. Maybe I'm just used to growing plants in my tank, used too a lot of light. Oh I have a 55gal planted discus tank. It's been awhile sence I had cichlids.
    If you don't have a lot of plants in the tank, I can just about guarantee a ton of algae.


    Technically, discus are cichlids.
    Just being for awhile.

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    I have tahitian moon sand in my 55 and I used 80lbs in it. I have it rolling well actually my fish have made it that way, but spread out all evenly it's 2" above the black plastic piece that goes around the bottom of my tank.
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    I use the eco complete it is great at buffering and looks great too. I have used both and am partial to the sand over the gravel. Also I would agree with Jonah, excess lighting does nothing positive to a cichlid tank IMO. Excess algae growth and washed out looking fish is what you have to look forward to.

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    Originally posted by didjyman
    Also I would agree with Jonah, excess lighting does nothing positive to a cichlid tank IMO. Excess algae growth and washed out looking fish is what you have to look forward to.
    Hi this is my first post and i was wondering what does IMO mean. Also what is washed out looking fish? Bad or fading coloration? I have 1 community tank and they all look very pale. They didn't look like that at first but now its really bad it is my light?
    I'm /l/l@tT and I'm a Fishaholic.

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    imo in my opinion

    washed out, you nailed,, and the bad news is ANYTHING can cause.. 1st test would be amonia, then ph, then temp.. it could be lighting but i've never seen that one. it could be food.. any problem with a tank, you get washed out color and loss of appitite. and fyi

    for your information,, the new reply box gives you a new post and a chance to give it a title.. nbd.. no big deal.. and welcome to the forum, now i am no longer the new guy..
    it's not a disease, i can stop buying fish anytime i want, some days i don't even listen to the voices.

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    Ha ha nice. Chemical tests eh... I will get right on it. I probably just need a partial water change. It's been a little while. It was my favorite tank up until I purchased a bigger one and filled it with demasoni. So if I were to change to this cichlid sand would I have to do less water changes? Also what do you vets. prefer when doing water changes? Using sink water and treating it or buying it from the store and just adding treated water?
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    I did a water change and added some chemicals and all of my fish have returned to normal color... But one of them is still peach/yellow looking he is supposed to be blue. I don't get it... Is he chosing to lose his color because he is getting punked?
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    Originally posted by malawi,sc

    washed out, you nailed,, and the bad news is ANYTHING can cause.. 1st test would be amonia, then ph, then temp.. it could be lighting but i've never seen that one.
    Actually, I just read something in TFH about how having no lights or too dark of lights causes your fish to lose color. Basically it has to do with the fact that if they feel like they are forever going to be in the dark, they don't need to keep their color up as it serves no more purpose. I mean, there are other reasons, but that's the most understandable (and the only one I remember right now ).
    Don't anthropomorphize animals.
    They really hate that.

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    I already have a tank up and running and it's already gone through the break in period. I just learned about this sand and I would like to change to sand. What kind of problems are likely to occur if any? Or is it possible that I can just fish out the gravel and put sand in with no troubles?
    I'm /l/l@tT and I'm a Fishaholic.

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