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Raymond John
01-17-2003, 11:07 AM
[b:896ab95af3][color=blue:896ab95af3][/color:896ab95af3] 8) Good Morning Everyone,
Just finished introducing myself last night in the 'General' section of this forum and started this post but got side-tracked on other matters.....anyways, lets try this again.
I really like the effect sand has on my fish....they enjoy it.....they love digging around the boulders in my tank....
I had white pool filter sand as a substrate, but it was becoming quite stained with dirt and algae.....even after water changes and vacuuming and churning the sand, it still looked dirty......I wont do white again.
Actually by mistake, I found a very natural colored sand.....the color of beach sand.
It is grade #3 sand-blasting sand and runs about $5.00 a bag for an 80lb bag. As far as I know, it can not be found at the Home Improvement centers---not here anyways.
I found mine at the local Concrete Supply Center. Here, they carry differant grades and are always available.....grades however are differant colors. One that I used before was the 'Black-Beauty'. It is however, tiny shards of glass......using it, I never had any problems with my fish as they siphoned it through there gills.....I would have used it again, but I found the #3 stuff and it was what I had always looked for in a substrate.
If you can't find a Concrete Supply Center, call a local collision shop and ask where they get their supply of sand-blasting sand.....
Cleaning was easy.......I emptied an entire bag into a plastic tub outside and buried the end of the garden hose in it and turned it on full blast......it does murk up a lot so cleaning it thoroughly before using it is a must.
I let the water flow out of the tub for a few minutes before going back to it and dumping the water out and starting all over.....It was clean enough for me when I could see the sand clearly at the bottom of the tub.....at this point, I would churn the sand, trying to stir up the murkiness again.....when it settled quickly, even with the hose still running through it, I figured it was as clean as it would get.
Displayed in the aquarium, it is beautiful.......when the Frontosa's and lelupi dig and haul the sand to another place, watching the sand fall from their mouth without a powdery residue rising, to me was well worth the purchase and the little time it took to pre-wash it.
I have had no problems with sand getting caught in my canister filters or in the pump of my trickle filter causing impeller damage. As a matter-of-fact, I have found no trace of sand granules in my canisters or the sump of my trickle filter.
Before I forget....., be careful pouring wet sand into your aquarium.....it is heavy.....a while back I was setting up one of my smaller aquariums and was pouring wet sand from a five gallon bucket.....I could feel by the weight of the bucket that some sand had stuck to the bottom of the bucket. Instead of reaching into the bucket I just slapped the bottom of the bucket and BOOM! It all came out and went right through the bottom of the fish tank.....
Anybody wanting sand, try this sand or any bagged sand used for sand-blasting.....it needs a little cleaning effort in the beginning but its worth it......When using the 'Black-Beauty' sand some residue will float so I would really recommend the procedure mentioned above and keep an eye on when the residue is gone......
Most of this sand is stored inside and on a pallet so there should be no fear of any contamination by outside sources......
Talk to You Soon,
Raymond John[/b:896ab95af3]

thmandan22
08-13-2003, 04:52 PM
sounds like you found a good find.

zman99
09-17-2003, 10:15 AM
swimming pool filter sand is easy to find and about $5-$8 per 50# bag in any pool supply shop.

CUTTY
09-27-2003, 11:55 PM
Hi and thanks for the info i went and bought some the other day and it is way way better than useing than normal aquarium sand that i bought from the lps and it doesn't float around my tank when the fish stir it up great find

zman99
09-28-2003, 05:22 PM
Good to hear that Cutty. I cant stand paying alot for gravel/sand, rocks etc. I'd rather spend my money on a larger tank or better filtration.

Titandan
10-10-2003, 02:25 PM
Does it matter if the sand bag says that it has cancer causing material?

-dan

zman99
10-10-2003, 02:56 PM
All sand contains silica and can cause cancer if mammals inhale great amounts of it but it doesnt affect the fish. BTW sand from a river bed contains silica too.

jonah
10-10-2003, 06:01 PM
Tropical playsand does not. It's basically just fine crushed coral. Zman is right that the cancer risk is in the dust.

slc,phenochilus
10-27-2003, 03:24 PM
I just purchased pool filter sand 100 lbs for 12bucks, and the fish love it, its a nice off white color and I think I'll put this stuff in every tank from now on.

Mbuniac
10-28-2003, 01:31 AM
Wear a mask when you are rinsing it, do not breath the dust. Sandblasting sand is very high in silica. After it's rinsed there's no problem. I did my tanks in a light beige sand (20 grit swimming pool filter sand) and really like it;
Sam

Buffalony
04-11-2005, 12:13 AM
I know I have seen this topic else where in this forum but this one was left a stray.
I know this topic is Really old but I want to make a final post to make this one right and hope that no one else reads this post and says "HEY I think I'll get a hold of some black beauty and see how it looks in my tank with all my expensive fish" or any other sand blasting sand at that.

First off I personally use black beauty!

Many grades of it!!

FOR SAND BLASTING......

Sand Blasting sand(SBS) is an abrasive. Sand paper wo the paper.

Regular sand is rounded and soft on the gills.

With SBS the grains are cracked leaving them with sharp edges at a microscopic level. This is what makes it abrasive. The sizes avail. are the grain size, also the grit.

So when your fish are sand sifting and passing this SBS through their gills, they ARE damaging them. And when they are showing normal flashing behavior, they ARE scraping their sides up and damaging the natural slime coat.
These things will make your fish weaker and more prone to becoming ill. You may find SBS at a better price per pound than LPS sand but fish med prices can become over powering.
In the end you may end up with a stunning tank display with a bunch of expensive and sad@ss looking fish.
So if you were browsing through past threads as I was and you find this one, Please no not do this to your fish or yourself at that.
It's cruel.

Use Petshop sand. Or if you want to save $$ then Playsand. Or if you don't like the color of playsand(I don't) Checkout Commercial Grade Quickrete Fine sand (Brown bag light blue writing usually overlooked right next to the playsand at Home Depot) It gives off a bright white color and cost about 10 cents a pound. Or poolfilter sand.
Anything but Sand Blasting Sand.

Daddypugg
05-06-2005, 11:21 PM
Would beach sand work ok?