Picture Night

[z rock]

Pseudotropheus elongatus "bee" His color fades out when he sees a camera.
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http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d607b3127cceb5173f78643a0000001510
Hear no evil,see no evil,speak no evil,and incarnate of evil in the back.
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http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d607b3127cceb5173f5de52f0000001510
Letrinops blue/black bar
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d607b3127cceb5173f5064120000001510
Otopharnyx lithobates...maybe one day I will be able to get a shot of this fish facing the camera!
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d607b3127cceb5173f43e5310000001510
Big Blue
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[es]

that Otopharnyx lithobates is awsome, I have one in my tank at the moment. I can paste one of frontal view if you want?

[z rock]

Sure!

[Seedy]

so uh Z.... Does your SN come from "Zimbabwe-Rocks" (where a major strain of Oto's come from....)

[es]

http://www.cichlidforums.com/postimages/2004-08-26/64513-001.jpg

also look at http://www.cichlidgallery.com/NewFish/IMG_5327

I'll put some more in my gallery soon.

[Seedy]

Cool pic es!

[z rock]

I got him from Armke's a couple years ago.He wasn't a F-0 or anything to my knowlege.There's supposed to be a major breeder up in Utah.Guy named Steve Davis own's it,named Crystal Springs.Has geothermal hot springs to do water changes from.Breeds a lot of Demasoni,Auratus,albino elect.blues,yellow labs,L.trewavasa.Big operation.People would probably be really surprised to find out a lot of the fish they buy comes from Utah!

[Seedy]

Originally posted by Seedy
so uh Z.... Does your SN come from "Zimbabwe-Rocks" (where a major strain of Oto's come from....)

[z rock]

Man es that Z-rock is gonna be awsome! He's already got an excellent yellow blaze going all the way through the dorsal.Have you got any females in the tank with it?Where did it come from?

[z rock]

OOh! SN = user name? Yea,....Z-Rock=Zimbabwi Rock.

[Seedy]

Hmmm....Letrinops blue/black bar, that is a new fish to me....never seen that before....cool fish....Is that a calvus behind it in that pic....

[Seedy]

Originally posted by z rock
OOh! SN = user name? Yea,....Z-Rock=Zimbabwi Rock.
Ok, cool....first time I saw it come up I figured you just really liked Cameros or something! :lol:

I've always figured my screen name needed no explanaiton....it's my initials spelled out C.D.

[es]

Yes there's 2 females, He's one of the many fish I'm "baby sitting" for another week untill my brother can come pick them up. But I will be able to get some fry from him when they spawn.

It came from a person my brother knew in high school, and he was moving to go to college and selling all of his stuff. And my bro couldn't get down here before he moved, so he's having me hold onto them.

He hardly ever swims towards me so I had to sit and wait forever to get that shot.

[z rock]

I guess the lithobates need females in the tank to get them to color all the way enough to turn completly blue and loose the spots.
I got a couple of smaller females when I bought this one.By the time I got home the next day one had killed the other.The surviver ended up a male.Somebody at the LFS got a good deal on him.Didn't have to drive to Austin to pick it up!

Yea CD,I like chevy's but only in the truck form.

[es]

You can hardly see the spots on the one I have. He looked better before the move, he's still getting used to being here.

[Solace]

Great pictures guys. :)

On those Otopharynx lithobates the blue coloration is more intense depending on what area of the lake the original fish came from. I just got a group of these guys last week. My absolute favorite Hap type.

[es]

z rock is that a black background on your tank painted or a tape on one?

[Woot]

Nice fish Z-Rock, a buddy has some Elongatus Chailosi that are simliar to those Bee's. Lots of nice Elongatus out there it seems.

I moved my group of F1 Lithobates ZRocks to my 75 gallon, and they started spawning right off the bat. Those guys are more prolific then my Yellow labs! and they started at 2" in size for the females. :jaw:

So far my males blaze isn't anywhere near as impressive as ES's or yours. Do their blazes tend to come in as the mature or should it be there from a younger age?

[z rock]

I guess I need to re-subscribe to my post,I'm behind.

Yea es,I paint the back of all of my tanks flat or gloss black.They look the same from the front.


Originally posted by Woot
Nice fish Z-Rock, a buddy has some Elongatus Chailosi that are simliar to those Bee's. Lots of nice Elongatus out there it seems.[QUOTE]

Yea Konings #3 has pics of 4 of these that are simular.There is a Chewere,Chitimba,a Chailosi from Chitande Is.,and the "Bee" from Chirwa.The shop I got these from called them Chailosi "bee" so I don't know what the deal is on that.Mine seem to favor the Chirwa "Bee".
Konings say's they defend spawning holes only 50cm apart.Thats only about 20"!.Pretty small territory for a mbuna.I have them in my 125g with my Haps.So far they seem well mannered.They do like to dig!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Woot
So far my males blaze isn't anywhere near as impressive as ES's or yours. Do their blazes tend to come in as they mature or should it be there from a younger age?

I got my "Z-Rock" from Armke's at about three inches.He had such good color he stood out from the rest in the tank.I couldn't leave the store without him.They can change colors in a heartbeat depending on how they feel.

[z rock]

Well,I bought an extra flourecent fixture and I've been playing around with the lighting.I think I've about streached the limits of my little Cannon A 300.
I caught the P. "bee" in breeding dress.The other pic really did not do it justic.
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http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d611b3127cceb5de21299e810000001510
Cynotilapia afra "Jalo"
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Yellow lepturus
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Rubbernose Bulldog Pleco
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Letrinops blue/black bar
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Protomelas spilonotus: This fish hates having his picture made!
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And Mr.Calvus:
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[Seedy]

Hehe....I saw that....

Here's one I took the other day....a Yellow calvus and a Multi...

http://www.cichlidforums.com/postimages/2004-08-30/65303-001.jpg

[z rock]

DoH! Have another look.I'm through now.Enjoy.

[Seedy]

Originally posted by z rock
DoH! Have another look.I'm through now.Enjoy.

No problem...my plant pic doesn't look as good as your pics any way! Awsome shots Z....you should post pics more often....

[Matt V]

Damn, z. That Ps elongatus Bee looks great! Just gorgeous!

[z rock]

Thanks all.I was surprized when I found the bees at my LFS. I had always admired the photos of them in Konings books.

[Jennifer9821]

Originally posted by z rock
I got him from Armke's a couple years ago.He wasn't a F-0 or anything to my knowlege.There's supposed to be a major breeder up in Utah.Guy named Steve Davis own's it,named Crystal Springs.Has geothermal hot springs to do water changes from.Breeds a lot of Demasoni,Auratus,albino elect.blues,yellow labs,L.trewavasa.Big operation.People would probably be really surprised to find out a lot of the fish they buy comes from Utah!

Are you saying that alot of the fish on their list that says it's wild caught really isn't? I was thinking about getting some fish from there as I live in canada and have a hard time finding anyhing I like here. Are they good people to deal with?

Jennifer

[Jennifer9821]

Z Rock I am wondering is you P. "bee" aggressive I am looking at getting my mom some nice mbunas I am going to be going with some Acie's and labs. cynotil. and Psuedos. I really like this guy and so I just wondered if you found him to be aggressive., Beautiful fish pictures by the way there really nice fish you have there.

Jennifer

[z rock]

Oh no Jennifer, Armke's is a reputable dealer.I was just saying I didn't buy a wild caught lithobates.I don't know how the shipping works between Canada and the US. It may be more trouble than it's worth. I know of a person selling F-1 electric yellows up there.

Here's a couple links that might put you in touch with some cichlid people.I know Canadians are crazy about there cichlids!

http://www.crlca.com/fishsite/nonmember.html
http://s6.invisionfree.com/AlbertaAquatica/index.php?act=idx

Keeping the P."bee' and the cynotilapia is more or less an experiment for me right at the moment.Mine are in a 125g with Malawi haps and others. If you do get elongatus,I would suggest one of the four I mentioned earlier from the Chewere area because the one's from other areas,I'm sure can be quite territorial.Elongatus come from all over the lake.Some will probably be put in the tropheops genus before long.

[Woot]

A fish buddy has the Chailosi and Chewere, here is a pic of a couple of his males.

Chewere
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Chailosi
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Pretty cool Mbuna, IMO.

[z rock]

Hey,those are nice Woot.Thanx for sharing the pics.After studying those and Konings book I can see that mine probably is the chailosi.The Chailosi and the chewer have an all black dorsal and on the "bee" the bars extend into the dorsal.
I guess it's possible some might call all four of them "bee's".

[Jennifer9821]

Thanks for the links Z Rock:) I'll go and check them out. Nice pictures to all of you that posted some great fish.


Jennifer