please help

[D-Lo]

ok i went to petsmart today and seen a fish in the same tank with the green terrors he was acting real agressive so i told them to give me that green terror but he is not a gt he looks like he might be mixed with a fire mouth or something his tail and dorsal fin don't have orange on them either he has a dark blueish/black line threw his eye then he has the big dark spot like gt's have and the blueish green lines around the gt's mouth he don't have he has them on his dorsal and tail fin he looks realy cool i couldn't take any pics but i will try tomorrow but if anyone may know what he is let me know

[cich1]

a pic would really help,but i'll take a guess,could be a blue acara,or silver saum.

[Big Whattie]

i will try to get one

[cich1]

i wasn't very observant when reading your post,what makes you think it's crossed with a firemouth?does it have physical characteristics of one or some weird coloring?

[D-Lo]

well the head looks like one kinda but not really the colors also it has 3 greenish blue dots on its tail fin and some on dorsal

[D-Lo]

the reason for the 2 names is i was at my parents house when i posted under d-lo that is my bro i am big whattie

[cich1]

go to the american cichlid gallery,there's a post by vip called my acara's.he's got some pics you can check out.does your fish look like his?if not maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can help you based on your description,sorry i couldn't be more help.

[Big Whattie]

ok thanks

[Big Whattie]

nope not one of themmine has aa real dark line right through his eye and a dark spot in the middle of him like the gt's do sometimes his stripes fade and other times they look like a convicts but he doesn't look anything like a con i have had cons before and he isn't a con i will try to get a pic

[Big Whattie]

ok i have been looking at pics of various fish my fish looks alot like geophagus jupari body shape just like he has a black dot in the middle of him and a black stripe down his head threw his eye vertical anybody know what he is?

[Big Whattie]

he looks like him with same body shape but the dot and line

[Big Whattie]

he looks just like this http://www.geocities.com/aquariabg/Geophagus_brasiliensis_l.jpg

[Big Whattie]

what would be good tankmates and how much do these usualy cost i have him with 3 gt's and a firemouth

[Big Whattie]

http://www.geocities.com/aquariabg/Geophagus_brasiliensis_l.jpg this one

[Big Whattie]

i don'y know y it want work

[Midas]

Sounds like it could be Geophagus brasiliensis??

Does it look like this?

[Midas]

or this??

[Big Whattie]

he looks like the second one.....whats the common name for him? and what other fish can i put with him?

[Midas]

Generally referred to as the 'Pearl cichlid' or just 'brasiliensis'. They are probably (from my limited experience) one of the more aggresive of the Geophagus group. However I don't think they would do very well with most central american cichlids (ie not that aggresive). For cichlid tank mates I'd try some other medium-large SA cichlids such as other geophagus, blue acaras etc. Most other fish (if you want something other than cichlids) would probably do ok as long as they were big enough not to regarded as a snack and also fairly robust (or at least fast enough to get out of the way when need be) e.g. medium sized catfish, large rainbowfish, giant danios, decent sized characins (e.g. silver dollars) etc. Depends on what size tank you'd intend on putting him in.

[Big Whattie]

well i put him in a 29 gal with a fire mouth when i woke up the next mourning he was acting strange then he died i liked that little fish i haven't seen one around here that was the first

[Midas]

bummer, they seem reasonably readily available here.

[Big Whattie]

if i could find another one what size tank do i need and what could i mix him with what kind of cichlid is he?

[punkypuffer]

mix him with other fish like geophagus or aquadens... they are south americans but don't get really large like midas or terrors, etc. I have 2 tanks with geo's in them and they are fairly calm. Red Humped Geophagus (also called earth eaters) do really well with them also. At the store i work at we have a display with geophagus, festivums, and blue/red columbian tetras. At home i also keep severums and blood parrots with them. Good luck finding another one they are really fun. Also, this is not a total necessity, but they prefer very fine gravel to sift through, etc like 'blast sand'.