Some I know, some I don't. Please help.

[PedroPSK]

Some I think I know and some I know I don't have a clue. :wink:
These are just a few from my 75g
Can you please help me out?
I think #1 is a Cobault Blue - right? whats the scientific name for him? He is the leader of the tank.
#2 is a Nimbochromis Venustus - ??
#3 (just under #2) is a neolamprologus tretocephalus - ??
#4 and #5 I have no clue.



Thank you all for your help.

[PedroPSK]

and the other two....
:D

[stoopid]

#3, you're correct -- shortname is Tret or Five Bar cichlid, I have one... he's mean :p

#1 looks a little like a variety of Frontosa.

#5 looks south american.

2 and 4 are africans...

/brain tapping

[Bootlegger]

#1 is P. socolofi; #2 is a livingstoni and I think #4 is M. johanni

http://www.cichlidforums.com/postimages/2004-03-04/31706-001.gif

Not familiar with the others.

[YourPalCM]

Yep, #1 looks like a Pseudotrophis Socolofi (definitely NOT Cobalt Blue)
#2 looks like a Nimochromis Livingstonii
#4 looks like a Melanochromis Johanni "Electric Blue"

The others are not Mbuna...so they are out of my realm of "expertise".

[StructureGuy]

#5 might be a young Astatotilapia latifasciata (aka zebra obliquidens) from Lake Kioga in the Victorian basin. The body shape isn't a perfect match, so I'm not completely sure.

Kevin

[aharris]

They were selling a lot of #5 at my LFS and they called them Tiger Haps. They're difinitely Vics and not SA or CA. I think the Obliquedens call was almost right one the money.

PS - Are we sure the Tang is a Tretocephalus? Couldn't he also be a Sexfasciatus "blue"? I always thought trets were higher bodied fish that looked more like juvie fronts which is why they're called poor man's frontosa.

[stoopid]

Originally posted by aharris
PS - Are we sure the Tang is a Tretocephalus? Couldn't he also be a Sexfasciatus "blue"? I always thought trets were higher bodied fish that looked more like juvie fronts which is why they're called poor man's frontosa.

They don't 'fill in' until they gain adult size and status.

There's a full sized/adult Tret at one of the LFS, and he's identical to the one I have home but has a slightly taller body... the Frontosa has the extra stripes and MUCH taller body, about the only difference really is the stripe and body height.

[aharris]

http://www.ultimatefish.com/Neolamprologus%20sexfaciatus%20blue.htm

Here's a link to a pic of a group of adult blues. I think he could be a blue juvie.

[SGypsyMermaid]

Originally posted by YourPalCM
Yep, #1 looks like a Pseudotrophis Socolofi (definitely NOT Cobalt Blue)
#2 looks like a Nimochromis Livingstonii
#4 looks like a Melanochromis Johanni "Electric Blue"

The others are not Mbuna...so they are out of my realm of "expertise".

fyi, n. livingstonii is malawian, but not a mbuna...it's a hap.

[YourPalCM]

Originally posted by SGypsyMermaid
fyi, n. livingstonii is malawian, but not a mbuna...it's a hap.

Oops...my bad. I did know that. I just keep forgetting since I have one in my tank - all the rest of my Cichlids are mbuna.

[PedroPSK]

Thank you guys for all your help. Now I'm more confused then ever, but I love it! Makes me want to learn more!

I looked at that link and I've been looking around a lot, I really think #3 is a Tret, the fish in the link have 6 bars while mine has 5. Here are a few pics of the bigger one, I have two of the same. The original pic was of the smaller one.

[stoopid]

Originally posted by aharris
http://www.ultimatefish.com/Neolamprologus%20sexfaciatus%20blue.htm

Here's a link to a pic of a group of adult blues. I think he could be a blue juvie.

Head's too elongated to be a tret and it doesn't look like Pedro's... also has the extra stripe(s)... Pedro has a tret...

[PedroPSK]

Thank you guys. I'm sorry to be such a PITA, but are you guys sure #1 is a Pseudotropheus Socolofi? It's not something like a Maylandia callainos?
Mine doesnt seem bright enough to be a male and seems to have too many eggspots to be a female. But i guess it does look a little closer to the p.socolofi. What do you think? I believe what you say. :D
FWIW - this one is the master of the tank. What he says, goes.
- here are two more shots.
Thanks again everyone and please forgive all these newbie PITA questions. :D

[SGypsyMermaid]

look at the differences in the eyes, also.

[YourPalCM]

Yep, #1 looks almost exactly like mine, and when I bought it, it came right out of the tank labelled Ps. Socolofi.

The egg-spots don't necessarily mean it's a male. It's common for some females to show eggspots.

[SGypsyMermaid]

Originally posted by SGypsyMermaid
look at the differences in the eyes, also.

sorry, i was talking about the trets and fronts, here. #1 is a socolofi, not a cobalt blue(m. caillanos).

[aharris]

I only thought maybe it might be sexfascitaus blue because the little guy looks identical to the sexfasciatus gold at my LFS only with blue highlights instead, but you guys are most likely right.

[TheThinkingFish]

#1 is a soccolofi. Cobalt blues don't have black in their fins. Actually one of my Cobalts does have a single black spot on its dorsal, but that is just a birthmark.

[PedroPSK]

You guys and gals all rock!! Thank you all for your help with my IDs :)

[z rock]

1.Fronts have 4-5 stripes under the dorsal.Stripe goes all the way through the eye.
2.Trets.& sexfasciatas have one black stripe ahead of the dorsal.Stripe doesn't pass through the eye.
3.sexfasciatus has 4 stripes under dorsal.
4.trets have 3 lines under dorsal.

[z rock]

That would make Pedros #3 a tretocephalus.

[karak]

I have a socolofi and your looks jsut like the two guys i got in my tank

[Seedy]

Another reason that #1. is definetly from the Psudotropheus genus....The Jaws!

Those Ps. chompers are quite distinctive...I started to say it might be a Cynotilapia species (it is not) before I saw the jaws...

[afishguy]

1.-soccolofi
2.-venustus
3.-DEFINITELY tretacephalus....what a joy they are.Mine has six stripes, but the one over the eyes doesnt count. One way for certain to tell is when you take him out of the water, he'll lose almost all his stripes. Its kinda funny. one other thing too is when they get excited the faint black line down the body really stands out.
4.-el.blue johanni
5.pretty sure thats an obliquidens.maybe, but I doubt, a dayglo

[z rock]

Trets have 3 bars under the dorsal.Sexfasciatus have 4 bars.Both have a bar between dorsal and eye.
On frontosa there are 4-5 bars under the dorsal with one that runs through the eye and no bar between dorsal and eye.

On the trets. and sexf. the line goes from eye to eye over the top of the head.

I'd go with socolofi on #1.Really eggspots aren't much of a reliable indicator of much of anything.

[pimpincomesnatural]

#1 socolofi #2 livingstonii #3 some kind of neolamprologus (slim chance that it's a tiny frontosa ) #4 blue johanni #5 female obliquiden