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jefweir
12-21-2003, 08:10 AM
I just got my 1st pair. :dance:

I asked for dwarf chiclids and got a Pair of Red Rams? :)

Are they a species :confused: African or New world?


They hate each other. :bawl:

They lock lips and push each other around the tank :jaw:

Is it normal :confused:

or have I got a pair of males or pair of females?


Any advice is appreciated. :)

Thx
Jeff

SGypsyMermaid
12-21-2003, 08:51 AM
rams are new world cichlids. i'll move this thread over to the american forums.

davoz
12-26-2003, 08:33 AM
They are new world. Rams are from southamerica and you may have a pair . They aften test each other and fight. Females are plumper and males have high rays on the dorsal fin.

aharris
12-26-2003, 02:29 PM
Red Rams are also their own species and not a hybrid.

chc
12-27-2003, 09:47 AM
A color variety (line bred)......... but a species.

Actually, now that I think of it, I'm not sure what you mean by Red Ram. I take that to mean the red variety of the Blue Ram (Microgeophagus ramirezi). If you mean otherwise, please specify........

aharris
12-27-2003, 10:58 AM
If you mean the Bolivian Red Ram, they are Microgeophagus altispinosa, and a different species than the line bred German Blues Ram and Golden Ram and even the wildtype Blue Ram.

They can be stunning fish if kept properly.

http://www.fishaholics.org/gallery/microgeophagus_altispinosa.shtml

chc
12-27-2003, 08:30 PM
Yeah, that's probably what he means.

Much hardier fish too!

aharris
12-28-2003, 11:09 AM
I've had them, and they're a lot more personable than the regular rams too.