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oxygen
02-09-2003, 06:02 PM
Is there an other cichlid that looks like the livingstonii? Same markings? I like to think I am pretty observant when it comes to colour and patterns, but the lady at the fish store looked at me like I was an idiot. I don't remember the name, but it sure as heck like just like a livingstonii. I've probably look at 30 different pictures in the past two days of livingstonii and have watched them at other stores....over the past three weeks... Am I crazy? :shock:
Thanks guys.

Oh yeah, have you guys heard of a price mark up like this. I bought my yellow labs last week for $5.85 (canadian) each (roughly $3.50/ $4 us) This is also what I paid for them 5/6 years ago in a small city. I went to the same store chain as last week, only a half hour down the highway and they wanted to charge me $16.00 for the same age, size and quality yellow lab. That's crazy! ..... Anyone else find that much of a difference around your parts? :evil: :roll:

wow.... there's lost of 'crazy' in this posting....hehe

SGypsyMermaid
02-09-2003, 06:39 PM
nimbochromis venustus:

http://www.cichlidae.com/tanks/contest/e017-027.jpg

http://cichlidae.netliberte.org/CICHLIDS/N-venustus.htm

jonah
02-09-2003, 07:25 PM
http://www.cichlidforums.com/postimages/2003-02-09/7559-001.jpg

Nimbochromis venustus at about 5.5".

http://www.cichlidforums.com/postimages/2003-02-09/7559-002.jpg

Nimbochromis livingstoni at about 5.5".

At this size they look alot alike. The livingstoni has more white in it and I recognize the difference in spots to tell them apart. Livingstoni have this neat habit of pretending to be dead on the gravel to attract smaller fish interested in a free meal.

oxygen
02-09-2003, 09:18 PM
:) :D :lol:

COOL!!!!!! Now that I see them together I can see the difference, and thanks soo much!
I can see that the Nimbochromis venustus' markings are more 'organized' (for lack of a better term) and the Nimbochromis livingstoni is more random, disorganized..... just like rotting meat. Right ON!!!
cool. Thanks

hehe :rofl:

mchernecki
02-11-2003, 07:23 PM
I have a livingstonii queston that I hope soemone can answer. I have three of them that look exactly like the one pictured above, same coloring. Mine are currently about 3.5", they look almost identical to each other. The only differences I can see, if you line them up next to each other, is that one may more tan gold than the others, while another is a bit lighter looking. Basically between the three they range in brightness of color from light to darker tan. At this point can I sex them at all. What are the distinguishing features between male and female. If mine look identical to the above picture than would they be male or female. what are the chances that I have three the same sex.

Thanks
Mike

tom
02-11-2003, 11:45 PM
Welcome, mchernecki

I kept <I>N. livingstonii</I> for a few months only; one would turn sparingly blue, noticeable primarily on the head and dorsal fin. That, I figured, was the male.

As to the math part of your question: Assuming a 50/50 male-female outcome, the probability that all three are the same sex is .125.

oxygen
02-12-2003, 05:24 PM
so anyone have the inside scope on the nimbochromis venustus?
aggression level on a scale of 1 to 10?

jonah
02-12-2003, 05:36 PM
Mine gets chased by the lombardoi. It doesn't seem any worse than any other cichlid, but that might change as it matures.

SGypsyMermaid
02-12-2003, 06:49 PM
mine was harrassed by a female red zebra, then he turned the tables on her, then they mated, and now i have their son! :shock:

jonah
02-12-2003, 07:26 PM
mine was harrassed by a female red zebra, then he turned the tables on her, then they mated, and now i have their son! :shock:

I figured out how to take care of that. Last week I didn't feed my fish for three days and then I pulled out all of the rocks on the third day. After a couple of hours I didn't have any hybrids in the tank. Even the hybrids that were over 1.5" disappeared thanks to my compressiceps and my male bumblebee.

Afterwards I fed them all really well with spirulina and put the rocks back in. I didn't want any of the 2.5" fish looking too good.

oxygen
02-13-2003, 08:11 PM
jonah... I think I am going to be sick........ :jaw:







I've seeen that happen before, it's the sickest feel I've ever had. Before I new anything about Cichlids, I had some gold fish and I added come convicts because the fish store said they would work. I also baught a Beta fish. They didn't touch the gold fish, but the next morning when I woke up I could figure out what was missing..... a few hours later it hit me that I had baught a beta fish..... I pulled the tank apart and didn't find anything, not even a scale or bones..... I had to pull out my reciept to see if I had really bought it.......
I took the convicts back.
Now I actually know about cichlids,.... but man... I don't want to repeat that again!

Cichlid Boy
02-13-2003, 08:13 PM
There is also the Nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus. Juveniles / females have a similar blotchy brown pattern to the venustus and livingstoni. I have kept all three species and find the fusco the meanest of all.

My male livingstoni used to go completely blue (with no sign of the brown blotches whatsoever) when in breeding mode. He was virtually unrecognisable.

merlyn2221
02-13-2003, 08:34 PM
I would say that my venustus is more of a "bronzy" head coloration than that of the livingstonii. She also has a thin, pale yellow/white edging on her dorsal fin that I don't see.

She used to get a run for her money from my auratus (who is recently deceased), but then she got bigger than he was and put him in his place. I notice that she is kind of a loner in the tank, but she is not the least bit aggressive when any of the other fish come into her territory. She is about 2.25" now, (she was probably less than half that size when I got her) so as she matures, this certainly can change.

jnorris
02-13-2003, 08:48 PM
Thats best kind of Aratus!