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[Idealconcepts]

Can you guys and girls identify they three pike I purchased? And possibly give me a little back ground on them.
a. Typical size they grow to or range.
b. Scientific and Common name.
c. Agressiveness
d. Any other helpful information.

I don't plan of keeping all three probably just one but want to make the right choice.

Here is Pike 1 and LFS said it was a red pike, are they correct?

[Idealconcepts]

Here is Pike 2 and LFS said it was a Green Pike.

[Idealconcepts]

here is pike 3 and LFS did not know what it was.

[josh_shilling]

Pike 3 looks to me like strigata complex, probably johanna, very big, not all that aggressive. #1 looks like a proteus complex which is 6" maximum and not too aggressive. It is very difficult to id juvenile pikes without knowing collection locale. I really can't tell at all what number 2 is, I think green pike is a common name that refers to lepidota and also the dwarf pike compressiceps. That does not look at all like a compressiceps.

[Idealconcepts]

Thanks Josh Pike three what is your definition of big? Will it be a 2 footer? Can you give me a range of what this guy/girl can grow to? Also for the two smaller pikes (1and2) at what size can you really tell what type of pike it is? The first two are about 2.5 inches.

[josh_shilling]

Keep in mind this is a lot of guesswork.

If 3 is indeed a Johanna/strigata group/lugubris type - 14-18" plus. They're pretty quiet if you keep them in a big enough tank. I had 3 in a 125, they got to 14-15", massive probably 2 lbs each. They will quickly run you out of $ with the feeder bill- mine would eat 3-4lbs of shiners per week in the winter when I had to buy them from a bait store. I had to turn down the water temperature to 78F to slow them down a little. They weren't aggressive, they would nudge and bite each other but never any chasing.

If pike 1 is a proteus, its a male, should get the rest of its color around 3.5-4" and not get much bigger than 5 1/2 - 6".

The other one, needs to be fattened up and nursed back to health first. It seems to have fright/stress pattern and looks pretty thin, which is not uncommon on newly arrived pikes.

[josh_shilling]

Also, looking at it closely again #2 and #1 could both be proteus from the ocellus.

[Idealconcepts]

Thanks Josh. I only planned on keeping one of the pikes and placing him in my 300gal. But depending on what research helps me discover I might think of keeping maybe two. Pike 3 if it ends up being a Johanna is a larger Pike than I wanted and might have to go to back to LFS, I was looking for a pike under 12 inches. So I might be keeping Pike 1 and 2, but will wait until I can get them larger and get a better idea of what they are. Pike 2 isn't eating the pellets I am feeding them, I have the other two pike converted to pellets and this one is being difficult. He does eat the frozen plankton and freeze dried krill just not the pellets, which I am determined to get him to eat. What is a typical range in size when you can give a good guess on what type of pike a person has? Thanks again.